ОШИБКА КЛЮЧА на Volvo s40 2007г
Я, наверное первый человек во всем интернет пространстве, который расскажет как справиться с этой проблемой))
Благополучно доехав до дома, вытащила ключ из замка зажигания, вставляю через 10 минут, пишет ОШИБКА КЛЮЧА, ПОВТОРИТЕ ПОЗЖЕ!!!
Повторила позже, и еще позже… Снимала клему с аккумулятора на 10 минут — не помогает. Вторая беда в том, что от прошлого хозяина моя Сосандра мне досталась с одним ключом. Обзвонила кучу сервисов неофициальных — ничего мне внятного не рассказали. Позвонила в Вольво-Обухов, записали меня на прием, вместе с машиной.
Пришлось вызывать манипулятор (обычный эвакуатор не поможет, так как руль заблокирован, поставить ее на нейтралку обычным способом невозможно, есть вариант сделать это где то под капотом, но сможет это только мастер)
Итак поехали мы в Вольво-обухов Домодедово, там провели диагностику и сказали, что ошибка в ключе. Новый ключ стоит — 6800, запрограмировать его — 4.000.(всего 10.800) Было подозрение, что ошибка в замке зажигания, его замена+программа — 17,000, но обошлось только ключом)) Сервис, конечно, у официалов — супер. Помыли, почистили, жидкости долили, ключик починили, на следующий день позвонили, побеспокоились о моём благополучии)
В общем справились с моей проблемой отлично)
Всем привет.
Погода стоит отличная вот решил я поехать помыть машину сделать марафет полный. Зашёл в магазин прикупить автохимию. Выхожу вставляю ключ в замок и вижу ошибку и защёлка не срабатывает.
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За восемь лет владения такая ошибка первый раз что делать куда копать просто не знал. Метров 100 не доехал до автосервиса а тащить ее ни как так как защёлка не срабатывала, а на улице темень. Зашел на DRIVE2 забил ошибку в поисковик и с такой ошибкой не я один столкнулся. За одно сразу же написал сообщение roman-romanch007 благо он сразу же ответил отправив номер телефона для связи с ним. По разговору сразу стало понятно что дело в самом замке зажигания. Стал искать что можно сделать не снимая самого замка зажигания. И тут наткнулся на пост Ивана почитав понял что ошибки схожи с моим. Пост www.drive2.ru/l/528298295789882682/ почитав выбрал 2 способ деваться было не куда, либо кидать машину или тащить не эвакуаторе на стоянку. Ударив пару раз крюком он благополучно запустился. Радостный сел и поехал домой.
На следующей день все было отлично но приехав на работу ошибка вылетела обратно. Долго не думая решил все таки снять замок зажигания в целях почистить контакты. После работы занялся данным вопросом. Описывать как снять замок не стал инфа есть на DRIVE2, для удобства я снял руль. Да снятие не так уж и простое занятие так как крепления самого замка не хера не видно, все делал на ощупь. После всех манипуляций получаем такую картину
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Отключил фишки и бегом на разбор, разобрав понял тут не чему ломаться вообщем чутка почистил пятачки и собрал обратно.
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По фото видно что не хватает какого то механизма который блокирует ключ в замке зажигания, его просто там не было. От сюда вывод что в замок залезали ещё до меня. Собрал замок и пошел ставить ее обратно, сборка не составила больших трудов кроме чертовых двух торксов на т25 крепление самого замка.
И так все собрал включаю зажигание ни чего не горит ни на щитке ни на парящей панели. И тут я думаю все приплыли. Но через некоторое время все включается и выскакивает уже другая ошибка ИММОБИЛАЙЗЕР ПОВТОРИТЕ ПОПЫТКУ. Тут уже я совсем расстроился скинул клеммы акб, постоял покурил закидываю клеммы вставил ключ все равно висит ошибка. После залез в блок CEM поснимал при выключенном зажигании все фишки посмотрел нет ли окислов, но ни чего критического не нашел.
А главное то что при вкл зажигании
Срабатывает защёлка
положении 1 моргает лампа подушки безопасности на панели пару раз и затухает
Положение 2 загорается все в штатном режиме
Положение 3 стартер не крутит.
Время было уже позднее решил оставить авто главное оно не мешает ни кому на стоянке. Прийдя домой начал искать и на DRIVE2 и в поисковике и даже в YouTube схожие проблемы. И таких оказалось очень даже прилично.
С утра прийдя на работу первым делом к машине. Ключ в замок а ошибка все равно висит. Пишу сразу же Роману roman-romanch007 объяснил что да как. Роман посоветовал прочитать ошибки но тут загвоздка у нас в городе так и не нашел человека с VIDA. Так что не чем было проверить ошибки. Сидел думал что же делать, решил попробовать варварский способ с крюком, а что деваться уже не куда было. Вставил ключ в ЗЗ В ПОЛОЖЕНИЕ 3 И УДАРИЛ ПАРУ РАЗ И ПОСЛЕ ТРЕТЬЕГО УДАРА ОН ЗАПУСТИЛСЯ. ДА способ правда писос какой но работает или же был вариант грузить авто в эвакуатор и ехать к Роману.
Пока поезжу так а там видно будет может даже прикуплю бу замок и перекидаю контактную группу.
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ОШИБКА КЛЮЧА на Volvo s40 2007г
Я, наверное первый человек во всем интернет пространстве, который расскажет как справиться с этой проблемой))
Благополучно доехав до дома, вытащила ключ из замка зажигания, вставляю через 10 минут, пишет ОШИБКА КЛЮЧА, ПОВТОРИТЕ ПОЗЖЕ!!!
Повторила позже, и еще позже… Снимала клему с аккумулятора на 10 минут — не помогает. Вторая беда в том, что от прошлого хозяина моя Сосандра мне досталась с одним ключом. Обзвонила кучу сервисов неофициальных — ничего мне внятного не рассказали. Позвонила в Вольво-Обухов, записали меня на прием, вместе с машиной.
Пришлось вызывать манипулятор (обычный эвакуатор не поможет, так как руль заблокирован, поставить ее на нейтралку обычным способом невозможно, есть вариант сделать это где то под капотом, но сможет это только мастер)
Итак поехали мы в Вольво-обухов Домодедово, там провели диагностику и сказали, что ошибка в ключе. Новый ключ стоит — 6800, запрограмировать его — 4.000.(всего 10.800) Было подозрение, что ошибка в замке зажигания, его замена+программа — 17,000, но обошлось только ключом)) Сервис, конечно, у официалов — супер. Помыли, почистили, жидкости долили, ключик починили, на следующий день позвонили, побеспокоились о моём благополучии)
В общем справились с моей проблемой отлично)
My Volvo S40 (06) would not start when I turned the ignition key. I got a message that was somewhat like «Key Error, please try again». I tried with both my keys so it wasn’t the key itself. I think I could hear some relay clicking in the on position. I had the same error about a week earlier but then it worked after a few tries and I didn’t think more of it, but this time it would not work.
I called the Volvo assistance and the guy they sent put the key into the ignition, turned it fully on and hit it relatively hard about ten times with the handle of a screwdriver, then he turned it to the off position and repeated the procedure.
The car then started. He said that he had fixed this problem on a few Volvos and they seemed to continue working after this, but he could not guarantee anything.
I am not a mechanic (obviously) so I wonder if someone knows what this error could be. Is it just oxidized connectors or is it a symptom of some bigger problem? What can I do about it?
asked Jul 16, 2011 at 5:28
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I recently had a similar problem where I got intermittent «Immobilizer» messages.
According to my mechanic (20+ years of Volvo experience) the connector between the antenna ring and the wiring harness sometimes causes problems — taking it off, spraying it with contact cleaner, and re-seating it fixes these. It could be that the vibrations from hitting the key were enough to overcome the resistance and allow the key to be recognized & the car started.
It’s a relatively simple job to get to and clean the connector, which might be good preventative maintenance.
Other possibilities: You could have a bad relay. There’s a fusebox under the hood, and one of the relays (R13) is for the starter. You should be able to remove the relay, and jumper the connection to determine whether or not the relay is the problem. You can get the wiring diagram for the car here.
Finally, you could have an intermittent connection to the starter, or a bad starter.
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answered Jul 17, 2011 at 16:49
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If you had given that description without the screwdriver part, it would sound to me like your car is one of those that has a chip in the key where not just any key matching the physical cut will work, it has to be in combination with the car reading the chip. The goal being more security to keep someone from getting a hold of your key and making a copy of it or trying to circumvent the physical portion of the ignition.
These were the precursor to the keyless ignitions that are found on more and more cars these days where you don’t even have to put the key in, just have it in your pocket.
Perhaps the transmitter/receiver is in the steering column as the key would be in the ignition when it is trying to read it and hitting the key in the ignition caused enough vibration to jossle the transmitter/receiver. Volvo may have had a manufacturing issue on that model of a weak soldering joint or similar causing an intermittent issue to develop over time.
answered Jul 16, 2011 at 8:32
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I don’t know why he would beat on your car, as the problem will likely just return. The problem likely lies in one of these places: The tag in the key itself (RFID) read by the computers, the ring that provides the field required to read the tag, or the computer that recognizes the tag. Beating it fixes nothing.
answered Jul 29, 2011 at 18:37
Had a similar problem with my 2006 1.8 petrol s40. Immobilizer stuck on, «immobilizer, see manual» error message. I checked all fuses, wiring etc, lock unlock 5 times myth and disconnected my battery for half an hour!
I was on the verge of calling an auto electrician out when I stumbled upon a post that advised me to turn the key all the way to the firing up position and hold it there, then tap the key with the end of a screwdriver, on the third tap my car started. The problem is a loose connection in the starter switch.
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answered Sep 9, 2013 at 8:09
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I just experienced the same deal. However, the fix didn’t entail any sort of weird mechanical voodoo. I just changed the battery on the key fob.
The symptoms were the following: (1) was able to control door locks remotely, (2) the key hole would emit weird clicking sounds, (3) the status on the console read «Key Error». I called my trusted Volvo mechanic and his first suggestion was to just change the battery first. Worked like a charm!
For the 2005 S40, you’ll need a CR2032 with the positive end down. All the best to y’all.
answered Apr 29, 2015 at 1:51
Had my s40. 07 2.0d for few months all of a sudden it came up key falure try again and then it came up immobiliser try again put it into volvo and they said the ecu lost memory so had to be updated (common fault ) apparently so got car back seemed fine for about a week then happend again so they told me i had to replace the key fob battery and my engine battery as if these run flat it looses ecu memory so replace them and anouther update from volvo and now car seems fine touch wood hope this helps
answered Nov 5, 2015 at 20:17
Omg..a friend thought my car not starting sounded like a security issue with my key fob and recommended that I google my problem. I have a 2006 Volvo S40 and I found others had this same exact problem. I gave the screwdriver method a try and it worked! Crazy but so glad I found this exchange, thank you!
answered Jan 23, 2016 at 21:12
Yes i had a look at a s40 2005 model today, The customer was left with no ignition and no crank but wipers interior light, main lights all worked,
After a lot of tracing i found that the ignition switch to be faulty no main ignition circuit out put, when i used my back probe the car started perfect,all circuits worked,,
This may help i would definitly go to ignition switch first,,
answered Jun 23, 2012 at 17:28
I had the same problem this morning with my 2007 s40 2.0D. The car has 125,000 miles on the clock and up until now has been very reliable.
I went on a short journey this morning parked the car as normal and locked it with the key fob. On my return the car unlocked with the key fob, but when I tried to start the engine the radio & dash board operated as usual however when I turned the key to position 3 the engine would not turn over.
When the key was turned there was no sign that anything was happening, no clicks from the starter motor or audible noise from the fuel pump etc.
I had to leave the car there and went home to check the web to see it this had happened to anybody else, and I stumbled on this site, I decided to try this remedy as I had nothing to lose, and to my surprise it worked.
I held the key in position 3, then hit the end of the key firmly with a screwdriver handle, and the car started.
Try it, it worked for me!!
answered Nov 28, 2014 at 13:46
I had same key error message on my 56 plate s40, so opened the key flap with the key itself and sprayed inside the hole with wd40! Few months ago now and no further problems. Fingers crossed.
answered Apr 6, 2015 at 13:44
Had the same problem with my 2.0D V50 137000 miles on the clock never had a problem with the immobiliser before.
Was waiting to pick daughter up from work engine running okay, turned engine off for a few minutes whilst waiting for her. Everything was normal lights, bells and whistles but engine would not even turn over, no matter what I tried nothing. Got out of car and functioned the door lock to see if it would start, nothing!!
Three hour wait to be recovered home, when I put the car in the drive I tried it again and got a one off message never had again «Immobiliser check manual» message.
Trawled the Internet for answers, tried the function lock and unlock the door five times nothing. Disconnected the battery overnight still nothing.
Checked the relay (R13) and starter relay wires all fine.
At this point was thinking I’m looking at replacing the antenna ring and seeing pound note signs rolling over!!
Checked the passenger fuse box connections all fine and came across this one of «tapping the key» whilst key in position three.
So put key in ignition, turned key to position three and tapped it two or three times with back of screwdriver handle and the car burst into life.
Magical screwdriver now kept in glove box should the need arise.👍👍
answered Mar 28, 2016 at 15:19
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My Volvo S40 (06) would not start when I turned the ignition key. I got a message that was somewhat like «Key Error, please try again». I tried with both my keys so it wasn’t the key itself. I think I could hear some relay clicking in the on position. I had the same error about a week earlier but then it worked after a few tries and I didn’t think more of it, but this time it would not work.
I called the Volvo assistance and the guy they sent put the key into the ignition, turned it fully on and hit it relatively hard about ten times with the handle of a screwdriver, then he turned it to the off position and repeated the procedure.
The car then started. He said that he had fixed this problem on a few Volvos and they seemed to continue working after this, but he could not guarantee anything.
I am not a mechanic (obviously) so I wonder if someone knows what this error could be. Is it just oxidized connectors or is it a symptom of some bigger problem? What can I do about it?
asked Jul 16, 2011 at 5:28
3
I recently had a similar problem where I got intermittent «Immobilizer» messages.
According to my mechanic (20+ years of Volvo experience) the connector between the antenna ring and the wiring harness sometimes causes problems — taking it off, spraying it with contact cleaner, and re-seating it fixes these. It could be that the vibrations from hitting the key were enough to overcome the resistance and allow the key to be recognized & the car started.
It’s a relatively simple job to get to and clean the connector, which might be good preventative maintenance.
Other possibilities: You could have a bad relay. There’s a fusebox under the hood, and one of the relays (R13) is for the starter. You should be able to remove the relay, and jumper the connection to determine whether or not the relay is the problem. You can get the wiring diagram for the car here.
Finally, you could have an intermittent connection to the starter, or a bad starter.
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answered Jul 17, 2011 at 16:49
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If you had given that description without the screwdriver part, it would sound to me like your car is one of those that has a chip in the key where not just any key matching the physical cut will work, it has to be in combination with the car reading the chip. The goal being more security to keep someone from getting a hold of your key and making a copy of it or trying to circumvent the physical portion of the ignition.
These were the precursor to the keyless ignitions that are found on more and more cars these days where you don’t even have to put the key in, just have it in your pocket.
Perhaps the transmitter/receiver is in the steering column as the key would be in the ignition when it is trying to read it and hitting the key in the ignition caused enough vibration to jossle the transmitter/receiver. Volvo may have had a manufacturing issue on that model of a weak soldering joint or similar causing an intermittent issue to develop over time.
answered Jul 16, 2011 at 8:32
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I don’t know why he would beat on your car, as the problem will likely just return. The problem likely lies in one of these places: The tag in the key itself (RFID) read by the computers, the ring that provides the field required to read the tag, or the computer that recognizes the tag. Beating it fixes nothing.
answered Jul 29, 2011 at 18:37
Had a similar problem with my 2006 1.8 petrol s40. Immobilizer stuck on, «immobilizer, see manual» error message. I checked all fuses, wiring etc, lock unlock 5 times myth and disconnected my battery for half an hour!
I was on the verge of calling an auto electrician out when I stumbled upon a post that advised me to turn the key all the way to the firing up position and hold it there, then tap the key with the end of a screwdriver, on the third tap my car started. The problem is a loose connection in the starter switch.
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answered Sep 9, 2013 at 8:09
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I just experienced the same deal. However, the fix didn’t entail any sort of weird mechanical voodoo. I just changed the battery on the key fob.
The symptoms were the following: (1) was able to control door locks remotely, (2) the key hole would emit weird clicking sounds, (3) the status on the console read «Key Error». I called my trusted Volvo mechanic and his first suggestion was to just change the battery first. Worked like a charm!
For the 2005 S40, you’ll need a CR2032 with the positive end down. All the best to y’all.
answered Apr 29, 2015 at 1:51
Had my s40. 07 2.0d for few months all of a sudden it came up key falure try again and then it came up immobiliser try again put it into volvo and they said the ecu lost memory so had to be updated (common fault ) apparently so got car back seemed fine for about a week then happend again so they told me i had to replace the key fob battery and my engine battery as if these run flat it looses ecu memory so replace them and anouther update from volvo and now car seems fine touch wood hope this helps
answered Nov 5, 2015 at 20:17
Omg..a friend thought my car not starting sounded like a security issue with my key fob and recommended that I google my problem. I have a 2006 Volvo S40 and I found others had this same exact problem. I gave the screwdriver method a try and it worked! Crazy but so glad I found this exchange, thank you!
answered Jan 23, 2016 at 21:12
Yes i had a look at a s40 2005 model today, The customer was left with no ignition and no crank but wipers interior light, main lights all worked,
After a lot of tracing i found that the ignition switch to be faulty no main ignition circuit out put, when i used my back probe the car started perfect,all circuits worked,,
This may help i would definitly go to ignition switch first,,
answered Jun 23, 2012 at 17:28
I had the same problem this morning with my 2007 s40 2.0D. The car has 125,000 miles on the clock and up until now has been very reliable.
I went on a short journey this morning parked the car as normal and locked it with the key fob. On my return the car unlocked with the key fob, but when I tried to start the engine the radio & dash board operated as usual however when I turned the key to position 3 the engine would not turn over.
When the key was turned there was no sign that anything was happening, no clicks from the starter motor or audible noise from the fuel pump etc.
I had to leave the car there and went home to check the web to see it this had happened to anybody else, and I stumbled on this site, I decided to try this remedy as I had nothing to lose, and to my surprise it worked.
I held the key in position 3, then hit the end of the key firmly with a screwdriver handle, and the car started.
Try it, it worked for me!!
answered Nov 28, 2014 at 13:46
I had same key error message on my 56 plate s40, so opened the key flap with the key itself and sprayed inside the hole with wd40! Few months ago now and no further problems. Fingers crossed.
answered Apr 6, 2015 at 13:44
Had the same problem with my 2.0D V50 137000 miles on the clock never had a problem with the immobiliser before.
Was waiting to pick daughter up from work engine running okay, turned engine off for a few minutes whilst waiting for her. Everything was normal lights, bells and whistles but engine would not even turn over, no matter what I tried nothing. Got out of car and functioned the door lock to see if it would start, nothing!!
Three hour wait to be recovered home, when I put the car in the drive I tried it again and got a one off message never had again «Immobiliser check manual» message.
Trawled the Internet for answers, tried the function lock and unlock the door five times nothing. Disconnected the battery overnight still nothing.
Checked the relay (R13) and starter relay wires all fine.
At this point was thinking I’m looking at replacing the antenna ring and seeing pound note signs rolling over!!
Checked the passenger fuse box connections all fine and came across this one of «tapping the key» whilst key in position three.
So put key in ignition, turned key to position three and tapped it two or three times with back of screwdriver handle and the car burst into life.
Magical screwdriver now kept in glove box should the need arise.👍👍
answered Mar 28, 2016 at 15:19
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Батарейка не причем.
Либо неисправен замок рулевой колонки, как лечить на форуме уже не раз писал.
Либо модуль ключа, что редко , но бывает.
Диагностика и молоток спасет вас временно.
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SergVolvo[/I] ;3584671″]Либо модуль ключа
По этой логике со вторым ключом должно работать?
SergVolvo[/I] ;3584671″]Либо неисправен замок рулевой колонки, как лечить на форуме уже не раз писал.
Да, руль не разблокируется. как я понимаю ремонт только в условиях сервиса? Проблема….нужен эвак с манипулятором и разбирающийся сервис….
SergVolvo[/I] ;3584671″]и молоток
https://old.clubvolvo.ru/showthread.php?t=58570&highlight=молоток
прочитал. Но у меня личинки как таковой нет — куда молотком то бить? Т.е. проблема механическая а не электронная? (пардоньте за техбезграмотность)
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@SergVolvo , в Вашем сервисе возможно решить проблему? Можно Ваши контакты? Прочитал вот эту тему
clubvolvo.ru/showthread.php?t=78568
но я АКБ не разряжал. И Что за способ с молотком?
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